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Someone's got better speechwriters with him when he's overseas.

"You've got people here [at the G8 summit] who are working to alleviate poverty and to help rid the world of the pandemic of AIDS. They're working on ways to have a clean environment and on the other hand you have people killing innocent people.

The contrast couldn't be clearer between the intentions and the hearts of those of us who care deeply about human rights and human liberty and those who kill."

-GW Bush

...How the fuck did George Walker Bush say anything ever that I could remotely imagine agreeing with. How the hell did this happen.
I BLAME THE TERRORISTS.

Meanwhile, in 'let's forget all about William the Conqueror' territory:

"I would like to express the full horror I feel at the terrorist attacks which bathed the British capital in blood this morning. I would like to express to all Londoners, to all of the British people, the solidarity, the compassion and the friendship of France and the French people."
French President Jacques Chiraq
  • How the fuck did George Walker Bush say anything ever that I could remotely imagine agreeing with. How the hell did this happen.

    It's possible you weren't listening before. Just sayin'.
  • I blame him for dumbing down his speeches for us.
  • If you agree with George W. Bush, the terrorists win.
  • He left out the word 'apparent' between 'The' and 'contrast.' Or maybe he should have said "The contrast couldn't be clearer between those who kill, and those who send their flunkies to do the killing, while they themselves attend a back-patting session of the world's plunderer nations to discuss the possibility of maybe giving something back to the people they've been raping for hundreds of years." Oh, I'm sorry, was I supposed to give everybody a big fat kiss for their self-serving token gestures?
  • Well, it helps to remember how incredibly ironic the speach is:

    You've got people here [at the G8 summit] who are working to alleviate poverty and to help rid the world of the pandemic of AIDS. They're working on ways to have a clean environment

    Well, yeah, there ARE people at the G8 trying to do those things, but last I checked Bush was doing his level best to dilute, weaken and generally damage the proposals put forwards.

    on the other hand you have people killing innocent people.

    Ah, a self-reference at last.


    The words, coming from another source, would indeed be laudable. From him, well, the irony level's just too high.
    • When was the last time you checked? This is a serious question.
      • In fairness, even if Georgie-Porgie were singlehandedly doing his best to overthrow freedom for all of mankind to serve him and his Dread Cthuloid Masters, it remains true that the G8 Summit has a lot of well-intentioned people at it who are trying to fix a lot of serious global problems.
        • huh?

          the G8 summit only has 8 participants - the leaders of the 8 richest nations. There was, as there always is at the G8 summit, a concerted, international protest. I can't tell if you are being ironic or if you are serious. Those 8 people are heads of state of all the countries that CREATE the problems of poverty and pollution. George Bush is not trying to solve the problems of global poverty or the AIDS pandemic by any stretch of the imagination. AND his policies are directly responsible for the killing of over a hundred thousand innocent people. AND the economic policies of those nations favor corporations and banks that hold poor countries in a stranglehold of debt and economic slavery through the power of the World Trade Organization to influence government policy.

          I disagree that the G8 summit is full of (8) well-intentioned people who want to make the world a more just and humane place. It's like saying that George Bush invaded Iraq to bring democracy to the oppressed corners of the world.

          It's not even necessary that they physically go and meet anywhere. It's just a great opportunity for the press to cover the "offical" state dialogue.
          • ...could you please take a step back and read what you are typing?

            It's intriguing how you're assuming that the leaders of the 8 richest nations on the planet are A) creating all poverty and polution B) disinterested in solving poverty or pollution C) didn't sit down and forgive sub-Saharan Africa's debt recently, which runs pretty counter to your premise that 'the economic policies of those nations favor corporations and banks that hold poor countries in a stranglehold of debt and economic slavery', doesn't it?

            While there are a plethora of reasons to agree that the way these nations are being run creates these problems, no question, it's not entirely reasonable to think that the majority of the people attending this summit would like to fix these problems- and it's a completely irrational leap of faith to get from 'these problems exist because of the status quo' to 'these people would do nothing to alter the status quo'.

            I mean, I hate Georgie-Porgie with a white-hot passion, but that doesn't mean I think that individuals in leadership positions in the G8 might look at the shithole created by the system they're part of and think 'you know? that's a real shithole.'
  • You realize that William the Conqueror's crowd are still in charge, right?

    However, you would have a point about the Hundred Years' War, Napoleon and so on.
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